Vette1967

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Albany
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 11:26:22 PM
Thats a lot of oil.
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DaNewt

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 9:58:34 PM
It does matter when a 13year old company (government backed or not ) beat out the United States. If only our own government believed in it as well.
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KAR120CSII

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:31:27 PM
Yahoo, go getum Petro-China. And lookout PM Harper, the Northwest Territories will be Tibet east some day.
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:14:52 PM
Petro-china is a government oil monopoly. Does it matter?
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DaNewt

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 8:17:58 PM
@Gassed01- Toronto Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 12:17:08 PM
<< Do they gouge their consumer customers like Exxon? >>
Yes, but not how you might might think. Much is true from TheDix's (Ontario) post
<<They haven't any laws to hold things up like we do in the west. We have to introduce laws to protect nature ,wildlife,air quality control and who knows what. The Chinese just do it regardless of consequences >>
I cannot speak to Canada but at least one half of our pump price in the U.S., consists of taxes, regulatory fees in one form or another. It's easy to pile on Big Oil, but they have all these hoops that the Chinese government does not. Unfortunately, the cost of all that regulation is passed down to the consumers.
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 6:36:30 PM
I SEE RED PEOPLE!
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VomVom

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 4:56:09 PM
With the Chinese government's support, PetroChina can do a lot in a very short time instead of the road blocks ExxonMobil has to overcome from the Obama Administration!
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sparky808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 4:27:57 PM
Sad news to hear and a result of the Nobama energy policy.
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dsaine

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 3:44:02 PM
Crazy.
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indyjim

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 1:54:43 PM
Imagine that.........a country actually doing something to secure its citizen's energy future. Wouldn't it be nice if the US had leadership that had the foresight to do that?
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SammyAdams

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 12:59:38 PM
From the article: "The Beijing company was created by the Chinese government . . ." ------------------------------------------------------------------- What's the big deal? A Communist government operation has the use of slave labor, doesn't need to deal with EPA for permits, and can actually lose money without adverse consequences, because they can just raise taxes to cover any losses.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:59:15 AM
Unbelievable!
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Travel1st

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 11:00:20 AM
Motivation is the key.
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LostToo

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:48:17 AM
Oh Well, I guess you can't stay on top for ever.
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A2J

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:43:10 AM
This is crazy news..,
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hcivic

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:22:47 AM
agree Bubba44612
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2granny

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:21:02 AM
Yup, China is out to get it all.
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:17:08 AM
Do they gouge their consumer customers like Exxon?
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tutaw

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:16:46 AM
go figure
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Kato51

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:15:38 AM
What do you expect out of #1?
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:15:07 AM
Government backing always helps.
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Car54BC08

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:13:10 AM
It's getting closer all the time for China to rule the world.
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TheDix

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:13:02 AM
They haven't any laws to hold things up like we do in the west.We have to introduce laws to protect nature ,wildlife,air quality control and who knows what.The Chineese just do it regardless of consequences.
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puinsai808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:12:36 AM
Nobama, are you reading this too?
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danlanman

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:11:42 AM
ok
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:11:39 AM
We export most our our oil thats why our price for gas is so high.
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JCI46009IN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:08:30 AM
Arn't we selling oil to china?
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:08:30 AM
and do we really care?
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GasMonc

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:03:00 AM
Republicans really handed over our economy to the Chinese.
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:01:49 AM
The Chinese Government, unlike the U.S Government thanks to Obama, is encouraging growth in the "big oil" business.
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rnlunder

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Waco
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:59:37 AM
Good, that should make the Speculators look like liars if the prices do not drop.
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:55:38 AM
Fuel for the speculators. Stop commodity speculation/manipulation now.
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jamieg2012

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Sioux Falls
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:55:21 AM
the way the chinese do things wonder if they are going to have a worse environmental record than bp
seems the chinese refuse to spend money for safety or even decent wages
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:55:09 AM
SO-O-O-O-O
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TAT36

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Florida
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:55:02 AM
This is a sign they have advanced planning and nothing they do happens by chance. Does our well being and life style count? Only if we have the money to buy it.
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uppy25

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:54:48 AM
Ok
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UseLessGasFolks

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:51:12 AM
This is why we can not drill our way out of this mess. Big oil will just bow to China as they have the most money to burn.
The entire purpose of the keystone xl pipeline is so Canada can get its oil to the gulf and ship it to China.
IT IS SAD THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THE PIPELINE IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF US AMERICANS. Do you really think a Canadian oil company cares about us?
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kuma2000

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:48:24 AM
isn't that amazing.
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Valricoslash

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:47:37 AM
And Canada will sell it to them while Obama tells the Canadians to go screw themselve over the XL pipline. November can't come soon enough/
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cssco

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:46:39 AM
There will be a day in the not too distant future and we will have all there is. We don't drill, you know.
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QualTekGuy

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:45:57 AM
Let the biggest users worry about being the biggest producers and sustain themselves. I am tired of being one of the smallest users and yet, one of the biggest losers when it comes to pump prices.
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RobertSpratt

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:44:27 AM
I told you to be careful of the chinese. they are evil!!!!!
[Edited by: RobertSpratt at 4/8/2012 12:44:36 PM EST]
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IMLURCH

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:26:44 AM
Watch the U.S. will sell them oil so we can pay more here?
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fullauto

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Reading
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:15:51 AM
no sh..
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Dennisjk

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:14:14 AM
OK then, maybe now Obama will let our oil be pumped and go to China.
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jimbo1867

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:12:25 AM
uhuh
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LQQKGAS

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:11:46 AM
Private companies can not compete against a govt owned company.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:11:29 AM
And Obama is just about handing more to China on a silver platter by nixing the Keystone pipeline from Canada.
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:11:12 AM
I agree with mickealo.
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angel4me

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:10:42 AM
they are a huge country
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