Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 10:22:12 AM
Those screaming about clean fuel... never have had to breathe in a traffic jam... (grin)
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 9:59:20 AM
seems mstearno still operates with a fantasyland zip code....
come on guys.... stop hacking up toxic hairballs of baloney...
[Edited by: Gnusman53 at 10/16/2012 1:03:51 PM EST]
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 9:57:05 AM
Well said aviator rob
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Gnusman53

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 9:54:24 AM
Still need cleaner diesel....but it is at least getting better than it was years ago........
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BEGTWO

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 6:32:38 AM
WOW!!!
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 12:46:26 AM
Clean Diesel Projects Get $30 Million from EPA, $30 Million for cleaner running diesel engines by using taxpayer money? New engines to reduce the 11 million older high pollution diesel engines. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
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rjhenn

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Des Moines
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 10:13:24 PM
bullseye100 - "Since when does the EPA hand out money?"
Since Congress told them to.
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Eugenian

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:37:47 PM
This is good news. Now, if we can just get the Republicans in Congress and their K Street masters to allow the elimination of subsidies to the Big Oil piggies...
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sljbc475

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:34:50 PM
The oil companies do not need any help!
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paulydel

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:22:55 PM
The EPA should suck on the exhaust pipes.
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anthroMO

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:07:30 PM
will NG produce the power like diesel? why not switch to NG?
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carlsonguitars

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Portland
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:02:36 PM
I hope diesels and gasoline cars have increased efficiency, but I think plug in hybrids are the wave of the future!!!!
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:02:01 PM
Boy, the antigovernment forces are fired up tonight. I really wish all you people could go somewhere without a government and try it out awhile for yourselves. Anarchy is no fun.
And as for this being a waste of money, it's 10 cents out of your pocket. The Pentagon blew through this entire program's budget money in the time it took me to write this comment.
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HEMI4x4OH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 9:01:24 PM
OK!
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bullseye100

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:59:52 PM
Since when does the EPA hand out money?
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:56:55 PM
Kids without asthma are easier to teach, @abcdMA. They also miss fewer school days and their parents miss fewer days at work that would otherwise be spent at the doctor's office. Less asthma also means lower healthcare costs.
Gotta look at the big picture.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:54:32 PM
You're going to miss the President, @mstearno? Congratulations on jinxing the election. You'll now have to rage against him for four more years.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:53:59 PM
another waste of taxpayer money---how many teachers would this pay?
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Jeeputtputt

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:52:56 PM
more waste of $$$$$$$$$ , bummer
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:52:51 PM
Don't worry, @libertyut. The EPA didn't get one dime from you. Your tax dollars went straight to the military and abstinence-only sex education.
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furiousfowl

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:52:04 PM
Really?
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:51:39 PM
this administration tries to pick winners and losers all the time I'm going to miss obama
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:51:14 PM
They didn't add new diesel engines to the fleet, @BMWer. If anything, they replaced some diesel engines with CNG engines, so that means less diesel was used, thus reducing demand for diesel.
Less demand means lower prices.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:49:23 PM
Retrofitting or replacing the oldest and most polluting diesel engines is the most cost effective way to reduce pollution and clean our air. Locomotives, marine diesel engines, and heavy construction equipment belch the most black soot from their exhaust.
That money is well spent.
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:46:51 PM
OK
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BMWer

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:45:51 PM
$30 mil to help make the price of diesel increase
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libertyut

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Utah
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:45:31 PM
And where does the EPA get all of this money?
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FlyNFool

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:45:13 PM
Ok
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ydjns

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:43:14 PM
Diesel is a lot cheaper than regular gas in California
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BizBombe

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:42:16 PM
k
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:38:57 PM
Clean diesel is about as clean as clean coal.
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rf6480

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Miami
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:34:39 PM
get rid of EPA
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chuckhermann

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:33:59 PM
This is good news. Diesel tractors tend to run for 20-30 years before being retired. They are way behind the latest regulations and advancements in technology.
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mcmonsta

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:32:29 PM
alms for the not so poor?
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Rajah

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:31:12 PM
Diesels definitely have their place.
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:29:41 PM
Kill the EPA
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blazerbob91

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:27:37 PM
More govt handouts
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PoohMcGoo

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:27:35 PM
Ok
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:26:53 PM
Love my DIESEL GMC Serra HD and can't wait for a Diesel Chevrolet Cruze.
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GordoM

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:26:46 PM
Why does government think they know best which projects/technologies are the most promising? Cause it's not their money? More of your $$$ up in smoke.
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wayoung56

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:26:07 PM
More feel good BS for the tree huggers benefit and more tax dollars down the drain...
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saleboss

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:26:02 PM
Let's hope they don't go belly up like the other companies that got substantial federal aid!
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:24:38 PM
ok
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:23:22 PM
Gee, where did the EPA get the money????????
Rationalizing their existence.
Green is red.
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carinthuist

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:21:29 PM
great working together
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billduhkid

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:20:50 PM
i couldnt agree more
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webncrb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:18:14 PM
No need to worry about all this "clean" energy, if we can't afford to keep it up.
[Edited by: webncrb at 10/14/2012 11:20:32 PM EST]
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:15:00 PM
Get together with Mercedes-Benz engineers.
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ectolle

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:14:52 PM
Clean diesel is a joke. All he particulate filters and EGR is a huge headache and makes the new diesels inefficient and he service light come on all the time. They need to leave them alone.
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netman044

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2012 8:12:33 PM
If anything like current standard engines it will only make them burn more fuel
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