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Hyundai to introduce world's first production fuel-cell electric vehicle

Mercury News -- Hyundai, which has lagged its rivals in battery-powered electric cars, aims to leapfrog that technology and roll out what it calls the world's first production fuel-cell electric vehicles at this week's Paris auto show.

The South Korean automaker is betting that fuel-cell electric vehicles will be a more realistic future auto technology than pure battery electric cars such as Nissan Motor's Leaf.

Those models have struggled to win over drivers as the batteries are expensive, take hours to recharge and can only drive short distances. Toyota this week scaled back plans for its all-electric eQ minicar, saying it misread the market.

A fuel-cell converts hydrogen and oxygen into water and generating power to drive an electric motor. Fuel-cell vehicles can run five times longer than battery e

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Submitted Sep 26, 2012 By: skb69sa

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mrjames1818 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,540 Points:1,997,120 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 9:00:40 AM Ignore mrjames1818 Report Abuse Great idea - but cars will be first sold in Europe. Toyota admits current battery powered cars won't be widely accepted. Aside from fueling stations, price will be a killer at the start.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,963 Points:2,116,640 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 3:36:25 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse "production"? only 1000 in 3 years? 88k? They have a ways to go, but I guess they have to start somewhere...
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,810 Points:641,075 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 8:59:55 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Sounds great!
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,032 Points:700,180 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 7:55:09 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Ok
andy1024 Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,692 Points:446,200 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 7:33:18 PM Ignore andy1024 Report Abuse Thanks Hyundai for another good option.
tutaw Champion Author Kentucky Posts:3,590 Points:841,545 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:52:59 PM Ignore tutaw Report Abuse ok
menagerie1013 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,365 Points:688,365 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:26:01 PM Ignore menagerie1013 Report Abuse ok
sprocketsplines Champion Author Washington Posts:1,677 Points:859,665 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 12:50:14 PM Ignore sprocketsplines Report Abuse What is suitable for Europe is not necessarily suitable for North America. For example, natural gas which is abundant in North America but not in Europe may become the next generation of fossil fuel in Canada and the United States.
caddilac Champion Author Ontario Posts:16,593 Points:2,138,505 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 12:07:06 PM Ignore caddilac Report Abuse If Norway can develop a hydrogen fuel-cell infrastructure, Called HyNor, then why can't the same hydrogen furl-cell refueling infrastructure be built in the US and Canada??? http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/hydrogen-highway.htm California's version of HyNor perhaps???? [Edited by: caddilac at 9/26/2012 3:13:04 PM EST]
mnbeancounter Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,732 Points:1,061,840 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:55:41 AM Ignore mnbeancounter Report Abuse Good for them
caddilac Champion Author Ontario Posts:16,593 Points:2,138,505 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:55:12 AM Ignore caddilac Report Abuse Nothing new. Honda has already built a hydrogen fuel-cell car, AND they have developed a home refueling station as well. Honda's Fuel-Cell car Honda's Fuel-Cell Home Refueling Station And if a small country like Norway can develop an hydrogen refueling infrastructure, named HyNor for those that want to look it up, why can't larger countries like the US and Canada do the same? [Edited by: caddilac at 9/26/2012 3:00:40 PM EST]
gumbyrex Champion Author Fresno Posts:3,291 Points:758,090 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:53:25 AM Ignore gumbyrex Report Abuse Good move, but how much is it going to cost the consumer? I'm afraid the early adopters are going to pay through the nose for this technology.
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,824 Points:863,460 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:49:15 AM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse fuel-cell still has to be charged and prices are too expensive
ccf_jeff Champion Author St. Louis Posts:15,277 Points:2,563,600 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:46:57 AM Ignore ccf_jeff Report Abuse Well, if Toyota misread the market, then Chu and the Obama administration certainly did. They cut the funding on the fuel cell projects in progress and pumped billions into electric vehicles. I guess time will tell.
Mariuxus Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,755 Points:1,870,090 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:45:17 AM Ignore Mariuxus Report Abuse Wow...Hyundai...stolen technology...
bar1035 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:9,150 Points:1,297,245 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:44:50 AM Ignore bar1035 Report Abuse So who's got $88,000 to buy one?
bigmace111 Champion Author Albany Posts:2,713 Points:612,650 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:44:24 AM Ignore bigmace111 Report Abuse It's about time someone came out with a hydrogen powered vehicle. Now if they make it big enough for a family they will corner the market.
frugalking Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,067 Points:218,445 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:43:35 AM Ignore frugalking Report Abuse Very interesting.
NO_SWEAT Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,335 Points:1,078,115 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:40:58 AM Ignore NO_SWEAT Report Abuse These guys are doing some great work.
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,422 Points:2,192,985 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:40:52 AM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Hyundai NO!
bluetatanka Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:55,809 Points:779,880 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:39:14 AM Ignore bluetatanka Report Abuse Interesting points that you make, gas too high.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,984 Points:1,111,375 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:39:05 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Any one know what the cost will be to refill a fuel-cell???
19sheldon43 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,979 Points:843,010 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:37:18 AM Ignore 19sheldon43 Report Abuse And where do you fuel it up at?
tdmedan All-Star Author Colorado Posts:580 Points:148,945 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:34:22 AM Ignore tdmedan Report Abuse ok
BIGREDNM Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:3,592 Points:845,785 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:34:04 AM Ignore BIGREDNM Report Abuse I'm not sure about anything that's a first for Koreans when it comes to cars.
kino10 Champion Author California Posts:2,253 Points:123,015 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:33:30 AM Ignore kino10 Report Abuse not for me, what about natural gas?
repeater1 Champion Author Topeka Posts:8,293 Points:2,364,645 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:33:28 AM Ignore repeater1 Report Abuse If anyone can make it work correctly bet on Hyundai to do it.
BlueBell Champion Author Toledo Posts:14,997 Points:2,865,275 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:30:13 AM Ignore BlueBell Report Abuse It's it is anything like my Sante Fe - it may be my first really efficient auto. Have never had an issue with this car. Some great workmanship!
marlita Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,307 Points:784,055 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:29:09 AM Ignore marlita Report Abuse not for me
Discovery02 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,540 Points:308,715 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:26:28 AM Ignore Discovery02 Report Abuse Keep working the issue...we need progress.
GryphonX Champion Author Nevada Posts:6,095 Points:1,587,025 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:25:30 AM Ignore GryphonX Report Abuse I hope this one doesn't burst into flames as well ...
WaWanderer Champion Author Washington Posts:4,331 Points:584,975 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:22:54 AM Ignore WaWanderer Report Abuse Keep working on it.
gasbuddyVA Veteran Author Fayetteville Posts:386 Points:642,905 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:16:03 AM Ignore gasbuddyVA Report Abuse ready for it - get away from batteries
Kato51 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,255 Points:2,162,815 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:15:56 AM Ignore Kato51 Report Abuse Why aren't we able to come up with something that will work?
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:6,523 Points:1,791,210 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:14:11 AM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse let's see it!
99church Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,816 Points:361,065 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:12:02 AM Ignore 99church Report Abuse hydrogen may be the best alternative provided it can be done ssfely. cheap and plenty
bullfrog69 Champion Author Texas Posts:2,304 Points:832,760 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:11:55 AM Ignore bullfrog69 Report Abuse Communist car, for you communist americans!
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TopGunn Champion Author Baltimore Posts:9,181 Points:2,614,555 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:10:15 AM Ignore TopGunn Report Abuse Good for them.
divebomber Champion Author Nebraska Posts:6,073 Points:1,811,300 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:08:22 AM Ignore divebomber Report Abuse HYUNDAI IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND THE COMPETITION DOESN'T REALIZE IT YET!
Bildawg Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,066 Points:480,970 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 11:07:34 AM Ignore Bildawg Report Abuse cool
mitchells Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,856 Points:1,124,135 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:57:53 AM Ignore mitchells Report Abuse didn't honda and m-b have fuel cell cars like 10-15 years ago?
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,843 Points:734,015 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:57:09 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse There are many different sorts of fuel cell technologies, and they each have their advantages and disadvantages, as to operating temperatures, fragility/robustness, and the type of fuel that they can 'burn'
5Golfer8 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,138 Points:300,650 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:57:03 AM Ignore 5Golfer8 Report Abuse I'm sure that their using Obama money to create this vehicle since the money was not used here in the states.
CISA Champion Author Orange County Posts:5,942 Points:1,398,035 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:56:55 AM Ignore CISA Report Abuse Yours for only $88,000! And Hyundai hopes to reduce the price to $44,000 by 2015 when they introduce it in larger numbers. Attention environmentalists: go for it! Rmoney
gas_too_high Champion Author Columbus Posts:11,534 Points:1,931,390 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:56:24 AM Ignore gas_too_high Report Abuse The problem with fuel cells is that they are almost always tied to hydrogen, which is the least practical or available of the gasoline alternatives today. I have heard references to natural gas powered fuel cells which sound far more attainable. GTH
momof5MN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:4,049 Points:214,035 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:55:05 AM Ignore momof5MN Report Abuse Not for me.
blackberryga Sophomore Author Georgia Posts:158 Points:224,245 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:54:20 AM Ignore blackberryga Report Abuse hummm
letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,240 Points:666,700 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:53:12 AM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse They won't get any of my money, buy americn
DeeLA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,807 Points:1,363,380 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:52:53 AM Ignore DeeLA Report Abuse Will there be stations for refueling them, before they go on the market?